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The 5 Stages From Operator to Owner written by John Jantsch read more at Duct Tape Marketing
Catch the Full Episode Overview Back from the vault with a conversation I’m glad to share again. After 30 years in this business, I’ve found that most agency owners want the same thing: a company that grows without them in every meeting. Jason Swenk breaks that journey into five stages: operator, manager, architect, CEO, and […]
Read more → 24 Jul 2026The 5 Stages From Operator to Owner written by John Jantsch read more at Duct Tape Marketing
Catch the Full Episode Overview Every agency founder wants out of the day-to-day grind eventually. Jason Swenk’s take: the real win isn’t reaching CEO, it’s building something that doesn’t need you at all, and most founders stall out well before they get there. In this episode, John Jantsch talks with Swenk about the five stages […]
Read more → 14 May 2026The 5 Stages From Operator to Owner written by John Jantsch read more at Duct Tape Marketing
Catch the Full Episode: Overview Most agency founders think becoming CEO is the finish line. Jason Swenk says it is actually one of the traps. In this episode, John Jantsch sits down with Jason Swenk, founder of Agency Mastery and author of Operator to Owner, to walk through the five stages every agency founder has […]
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